1964 Mercury Park Lane convertible

39 Responses to 1964 Mercury Park Lane convertible

  1. David says:

    i need to replace the drivers door on a 64 Park Lane Convertible.
    if a direct replacement 63/64 Mercury Door isnt available I understand that a Galaxie door can be used. what year Ford Drivers door can be used? 61-64?
    Yes i know there needs to have the odd bolt on peak and trim installed, i have a drivers door that i damaged backing out of the drive way hitting a tree and the door twisted…. 🙁

    • Bill says:

      Hi David, A 1964 Full-size Mercury door shouldn’t be hard to find. If you can’t find a Park Lane door obviously you’ll have to deal with trim issues. There’s a molding along the top of 1964 doors you’d have to find if you go with a door other than a regular 1964 door. Try Desert Classics http://www.desertclassics.com/mercury2 or eBay.

  2. Joe says:

    Hi Bill, are you still thinking about selling your 64 park lane? If so is it the red/white one pictured above? If so please contact me in the email address provided

  3. Martin says:

    It’s all good Bill. Thanks for the advice, just looking for options.

    Martin

  4. Martin says:

    Hi Bill, this is Martin from previous questions. I have a new one. Same 64 Merc Parklane conv. I have found some pretty bad rust holes on the bottom sections of the frame rails. So now I am thinking frame swap. But here is what I am not sure of, I am thinking of 64 Galaxie 500 since they are very very similar. Do you know if the frames are interchangeable? And if your answer is no, are the other versions of the Parklane frame interchangeable with the convertible frame except for the X member.

    Thanks for your help,
    Martin

    • Bill says:

      Hi Martin, WOW, you’re sure going to a lot of trouble for a car that will never come close to returning what you invest. As a matter of interest a 64 500XL is definitely worth more than an equivalent Park Lane, and a Galaxie 500 probably also, so you’d be better off keeping the Ford. I’d have to say if the frame’s shot, the rest of the car probably is too. When you start trading frames on old convertibles you never know where the journey will end. Remember, when the frame comes off, all that’s holding the front and rear clips together is that small “rocker panel” piece under the door – the doors have to be braced really well and this isn’t a job for an amateur or the faint of heart. I’ve just put a 460 Lincoln and C6 in my 64 Park Lane and am thinking maybe I should sell it. Pictures of it are at the front of this blog. If you’re interested I think you’d be a lot better off with it than what you’re describing. It’s a Medicine Hat car and never had any rust

      • Martin says:

        When does anyone get the money out into a car back out of it if they decide to sell? Maybe a Ferrari? Well in my case this car has personal value as well. What would sell your parklane for? Yes what I am looking into would be a large project for sure. For the value of Canadian made parklane I have seen info that counters your estimate of value, but there is always room for interpretation. Thanks for the input.

        Martin

        • Bill says:

          Hi Martin, You’ve hit the nail on the head; one doesn’t restore cars to make money (unless you’re the body shop!), but because you love the car and what it represents to you. I wasn’t trying to say you shouldn’t get into a project unless you’re going to make a profit, but some ventures cost a relatively reasonable amount while others are mind-numbingly excessive. I’d be embarrassed to tell you what I’ve got into my 58 Park Lane! A professional frame shop would be able to fully advise you. Sorry, I did not realize the car had sentimental value for you … Good luck!

  5. Bill, same car asked about previously. I have seen the car, overall good condition, seems solid, VIN 4Z65Z530670. Owner has original hubcaps and some badging. I’m not looking for a show car, but a fun driver and something closer to stock in appearance. Lake pipes are bolt ons, and as you noted, rear grille painted. Some questions:

    What would the original interior have been like?
    Are rear grilles easy to find to replace?
    I know it’s hard for you to judge, but would $20k be reasonable? (Obviously he has more in it).

    Thanks for any help!

    • Bill says:

      Hi Dave, I see this car advertised in a few places … 64 Mercury convertibles come up for sale fairly frequently so you don’t need to feel you’ll never find another. I’m a purist so like the vintage cars unmolested or restored to original – I feel the only reason to buy a car that’s been altered is if you REALLY like the changes and realize how much they will narrow its resale market. But that’s just me, perhaps you have other reasons to buy a particular car … close to home … reminds you of something.
      Anyway, this car has the Park Lane script and badges missing from the side too. It’s value if it was original in driver condition would be around $15K.
      4 = 1964
      Z = Built in St. Louis
      65 = Park Lane convertible
      Z = 390 cid 4 bbl
      If you send me the other number from the data plate, probably starting with 76F I can give original color, seat configuration etc

  6. Joe says:

    Bill, you seem to be very knowledgeable regarding old Merc’s. I had a 64 Park Lane catch my eye while searching for a 63.5 Galaxie. The car has been restored but not up to factory specs. Its kinda of an odd restoration. My question is how far off is the asking price to true actual cash value. I know the Galaxies quite well but Mercury made less then 2K of these cars so I dont know much about them. Here is the link:

    http://www.ellingsonclassiccars.com/inventory/view/8316575/1964-Mercury-Parklane-Convertible-Rogers-MN

    Your opinion is welcomed

    • Bill says:

      Hi Joe, Thanks for writing. Oddly enough a 64 Galaxie 500 convertible is worth up to 150% of a comparable 64 Park Lane. Unfortunately a pristine 64 Park Lane is only worth around US$18K. The interior is incorrect and this would detract from the value – improvements like this have the opposite of the desired effect. A further deduction from asking price to return it to its stock interior would be in order. Same with the wheels. Not sure what’s up with the rear grille but it appears to have been painted. That would need to be fixed. The “ParkLane” stainless script is missing from the rear fenders. Looks like the engine has some after-market additions – hard to say what or why. Finally I don’t like old school lake pipes on a 1964 anything – I doubt they’re even hooked up. By the time you’re done you’ll have the price so low the buyer would never agree and if you’re still interested your negotiating skills will need to come into play. Once someone has done expensive work on a car to change it from stock, it’s up to you whether you like the changes at the price being asked. Although there’s no way this car is worth $33K a 64 Merc is a nice car and not deserving of the market’s impertinent snobbery.

      • Joe says:

        Thanks Bill, I did not catch the rear grille being painted. You are correct about the lake pips, they are oddly enough just for show. (why I have no idea as this is not a hot rod). I knew the car was over priced but I was not aware of how much. It seems like they are so far off on price, negotiations would be a a waste of time. Being as there is not a large market for these autos, if I ever wanted to resale the car it could be very challenging due to the incorrect restoration. Thanks for all the info!

  7. Jan Bies says:

    Hi guys, I just bought a 64 Park Lane Convertible.
    It is red with red interior and a white top.
    i allready have a 64 Montclair fastback and a 64 Park Lane fastback.
    Can I bring in some pictures?
    Thanks,
    Jan Bies
    the Netherlands

  8. Ken Ertman says:

    Hi Bill, I found a 1964 Commuter 9 passenger Wagon for sale. It has a 428, 4spd with buckets. I am thinking this is not a factory car. I am trying to decipher the serial #. Motor # 4W72Y 527412. Then there is 241 which I think is there own stock # .
    71C F 32 06B 17 5 1 FE484 FN 712. These numbers mean anything to you? Thanks Ken

    • Bill says:

      4 = 1964
      W = Wayne Assembly Plant
      72 = 4 dr, 6 or 9-passenger Commuter
      Y = 390 cid, 2 bbl
      527412 – car sequence number

      71C = 4-dr, 9-passenger Commuter
      F = Pacific Blue metallic exterior paint color
      32 = Bench seat, Medium blue metallic pleated stitched rib vinyl insert; light blue metallic crushed vinyl bolster
      06B = Car completed Feb 6
      17 = Car ordered by Washington, D.C. Sales Office
      5 = Axle ratio 3.50:1
      1 = 3-speed manual transmission

      I don’t know what the rest of the numbers represent. Where did you find them?
      Regards, Bill

  9. glenn says:

    I would like to sell a 1967 Park Lane convertible 428 (Q code). The downside is the car is very rusty, very very rusty! The engine/trans ran and moved when I parked the car several years ago. I checked the date codes on the engine and they match up fairly well with the build date of the car. I did get a Marti report and they built 129 Park Lane conv’s. with the 428.

    hctub@hotmail.com

    My question what do you think the car is worth?

    • Bill says:

      Hi Glenn, The good news is that the Park Lane was the top-of-the-line convertible in 1967. Unfortunately the collector car gods have not smiled on Mercury’s full-size offerings after 1960, so even if the car was pristine it wouldn’t bring big money. It may be rare, but there just isn’t enough interest in the marque to entice anyone to undertake an expensive restoration of a very rusty example.

  10. mike says:

    I have a 64 merc Parklane, 390cid, super T10 four speed, power buckets and windows. What is your estimate on the price of such a car?
    frame off restored, rebuilt every thing to factory {except the color, went with red, do you blame me LOL} Factory installed 4 speed, DEALER installed 3X2 induction {“installed” in the trunk when shipped from Oakville plant}, have the build slip. Canadian built car, and I have had long conversations with the original owner who special ordered the car in Dryden ON, Canada in early Nov 1963.

    I ask because I am taking her down to Back to the Fifties June 19-21 2014 and chucking a for sal;e sign on her. Pricing is all over the map with these things!!

    Speaking of induction; have you ever seen a 64 with 3X2 carbs factory?? I know this was ended in 63, but did any make it onto vehicals at FOMOCO??

    • Bill says:

      Hi Mike, Thanks for the question and sorry about the delay in replying. Any collector car’s value depends initially on condition, model and body style, then on engine, equipment, authenticity and so on. Unfortunately, Mercurys are not in high demand among collectors and the 64’s are fairly plentiful. Having said this, the Park Lane convertible with the “Sports” option is definitely the most desirable and hardest to find. You state the car has been rebuilt to original factory specs, (this implies condition 2 or 3 as there would be only a handful of Canadian restorers that could produce a condition 1 automobile).
      Beyond this, your car seems to have some rather unique attributes, unusual for a ’64. If you have the build sheet that’s great, but without it you’ll have a hard time convincing anyone it came from the factory equipped as you describe.
      The Ford toploader replaced Borg Warner’s T-!0 on Mercs for the 1964 model year, so yours is likely a later non-standard addition. The full-size ’64 Mercs came with either a 390 or 427. To my knowledge no 1964’s came from the factory with a 3×2 carburetor set-up, although the Super Marauder 427 could be ordered with 2×4 carburetion. Up to 1963, the Super Marauder option was a 406 cid with 3×2 carburetors. These usually came “in the trunk” for the dealer to install. I’ve never seen a ’64 with 3×2 carbs, but it’s certainly possible for some unusually “tricked out” cars to arrive “off the grid”.
      Based on all this, I would say a fair value for a convertible would be $15 to 17K.

  11. Martin says:

    Hi Bill, you seem to really know your stuff about Mercurys. I have a 64 ParkLane conv. with a 352, 2 bbl. I am doing engine and interior work on it, and I am wondering if you know the way the shifter console was finished originally. I have 3spd auto on the floor. I am cleaning up the console and the shifter console. It looks like the shifter area had a type of faux wood sticker infill between the raised bits. Any help would be fantastic! Thanks!

    • Bill says:

      Hi Martin, Thanks for the question. The 1962-63 Mercury S-55 and 1964 Park Lane Marauder 2-door hardtop and convertible shared the console design and configuration with the 1962-64 Ford Galaxie 500XL, the 1963-64 Ford Fairlane 500 Sports Coupe and the 1963 Mercury Meteor S-33. The Fairlane and Meteor were both column shift so the ridged console plate did not have shifter apertures, although they are the same overall size and will fit full-size models. Shift plates for the full-size Fords and Mercurys were equipped with slots for the console shifters whether standard or automatic, but the shift plates are different and not interchangeable. For 4-speed console equipped cars, shift plates and the boot retainer are quite hard to find and liable to be expensive. The ridged console shift plates are chrome plated with the portion between the ridges finished in a flat aluminum/silver color. Fortunately, you can duplicate this with easily available pin striping tape of the proper color and width. I’ve seen these ‘valleys’ decorated with red, black or wood grain tape, but only the silver is correct. Shifter plates are made of cast pot metal and are very susceptible to pitting and corrosion. Fortunately the tape can cover a lot sins, but if you have some corrosion where the tape won’t do the job, a good metal shop should be able to grind it out before you get the piece rechromed. Unless you know what you’re doing I wouldn’t try this on my own as the metal is very soft.
      Finally, the 352 cid wasn’t available on the 1964 Mercs. On a Park Lane, the 390 Super Marauder of 300 hp was standard.
      Regards, Bill

      • Martin says:

        Hi Bill, thank you for the info. We always thought the engine was a 390, but my dad wrote to Ford Canada to get info on the car as it was built. They gave us the build week etc. and said it has a 352.

        • Bill says:

          Hi Martin,
          I got my original information from the Mercury brochure for 1964. What I forgot was that Ford of Canada sometimes marched to the beat of a different drummer. It seems the 352 was standard issue for Canadian Mercurys, except for Montclair 2-door fastbacks and Park Lane convertibles. The plot thickens. It is certainly possible that some exception cars were built on a one off basis, for example if the original purchaser insisted his new car be so equipped. I’m sure Ford of Canada knows what they’re talking about! Good question – thanks!
          Regards, Bill

          • Martin says:

            Thanks Bill, another question for you. On the interior door panels the material is vinyl with a faux stitching pattern. I have been looking everywhere to see if there is any NOS panels or material to restore the door panels. An ideas? Martin

          • Bill says:

            Hi Martin, I have used SMS Auto Fabrics in Canby, OR, and have found them excellent although a bit slow, (if you’re good, you’re busy). All the information is on their website http://www.smsautofabrics.com/
            Regards, Bill

  12. David says:

    I’ve got an opportunity to trade a late-90’s Chevy Tahoe that I’m not currently driving- for a 1966 Park Lane with the 428 “Super Marauder” powerplant. Your previous post suggests “stratospheric” value. Please advise. This could happen as soon as tomorrow.

    • Bill says:

      Hi David, My reference was to a 64 Mercury that came from the factory with a 427 (not 428) cid motor. Those are virtually priceless. The 427 was not available to Mercury in 1966. The 428, 4 bbl, 345 hp was optional and is a nice engine (my 67 has a 428). The good news is the 428 gets you about a 70% premium over a Park Lane not so equipped. In average condition it should be worth $14 – 15K. If it’s the genuine article there will be a Q in the serial number.

  13. Mike Louli says:

    Just bought 64 park lane convertible with Mauroder engine original car with 68k miles. Any information on this car such as what to look for, known trouble areas. value etc would be welcome. Car is in transit. Can’t wait to get it. Thank you in advance

    • Bill says:

      Hi Mike, Congratulations on the new acquisition! In my humble opinion the full-size Mercs took a styling holiday starting in 1961, from which they never really recovered. The two notable exceptions were 1964 and 1967, both of which were beautifully rendered designs. Park Lane returned to the line-up as top dog in 1964, after disappearing in 1960. It held top spot until 1967 when it surrendered to the Marquis. The “Marauder” name had been used by Mercury to describe different things over the years. It originated in 1958 as the label applied to the 430 cid engine with “Super Marauder” as the name for the 430 fire-breather with a 3×2 carburetor set-up. In 1963 the Marauder returned as a sub-series denoting the fastback roof-line – as far as I know the Marauder name was never used on a convertible. Some would say Marauder also includes a jazzed up bucket seat/console interior, but I believe it refers only to the roof-line which Mercury introduced to streamline their NASCAR racers. The special interior was available in S-55’s for 1963 which also came with the slant back roof. By 1964 S-55 was gone only to reappear in 1966. All very confusing. The notchback looked great on 1957 and 58 Turnpike Cruisers, sort of OK on 63’s, and downright ungainly on 64’s.
      I know of no particular problems with 64 – the 390 and C-6 transmission are virtually bulletproof. Standard in the Park Lane was a 330-hp version of the 390, equipped with 4 bbl carburetion. It was known as the “Police Interceptor”. Old car values have dropped since the Great Recession, and unfortunately Mercurys after 1958 have never been crowd favorites. For 1964, the Park Lane convertible is most valuable and depending on condition should come in at $9K to $15K. The bucket seat option will add 5%, and if you’re fortunate enough to have one born with a 427, (also called a Super Marauder), it’s value would be stratospheric.There are still lots of 64’s around so parts shouldn’t be a problem.

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